Discourse: May Someday Be Today!

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March 15, 2018                     (accompanying audio below)

Just as certainly as men share their religious beliefs, they create a religious group of some sort which eventually creates common goals. Someday religionists will get together and actually effect co-operation on the basis of unity of ideals and purposes rather than attempting to do so on the basis of psychological opinions and theological beliefs. Goals rather than creeds should unify religionists. Since true religion is a matter of personal spiritual experience, it is inevitable that each individual religionist must have his own and personal interpretation of the realization of that spiritual experience. Let the term "faith" stand for the individual's relation to God rather than for the creedal formulation of what some group of mortals have been able to agree upon as a common religious attitude. "Have you faith? Then have it to yourself." 99:5.7

What is a religious ‘belief’?

* an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.

What is a goal?

* the object of a person's ambition or effort; an aim or desired result.

What an ideal vs. an idea?

* idea: a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action.

* ideal: satisfying one's conception of what is perfect; most suitable.

What is a purpose?

* the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists.

What is a psychological opinion?

* psychological: of, affecting, or arising in the mind; related to the mental and emotional state of a person.

* opinion: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

What is a theological belief?

* theological: relating to the study of theology.

synonyms:  religious, scriptural, ecclesiastical, doctrinal

* belief: an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.

What is a creed?

* creed: a formal statement of beliefs, especially the Apostles' Creed or the Nicene Creed.

noun: Creed; noun: the Creed

synonyms: system of belief, set of beliefs, beliefs, principles, articles of faith, ideology, credo, doctrine, teaching, dogma, tenets, canons

Why are they detrimental? (see below)

True religion = personal spiritual experience ~ EXPERIENCE interpreted by the individual

* this is not a book, a gathering, a concept and it is not an emotion

Faith = individual’s relation to God

Creed = group think regarding common religious attitudes, which is NOT true religion

What is an ‘attitude’?

* a settled way of thinking or feeling about someone or something, typically one that is reflected in a person's behavior

“Have your individual relation to God to yourself.” ~ not with a group

What has Jesus’ determined our common goals should be? His kingdom and the gospel thereto should be our message!

The kingdom of God can only be understood if our One True God is present, fundamental and the PILOT of this personal spiritual experience!

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Our goals should have everything to do with proclaiming/preaching this kingdom to our people, our Father’s children.

Have we done this in our current dispensation? Are we doing this now? And IF we say that we are doing this as authentic and sincere kingdom-builders then we should have no problem discussing in depth with others what the kingdom IS and how they can find it.

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This will require the use of our own words, sentences and paragraphs ~ not only copying/pasting from the book. If we claim to be leaders and are not authentically/sincerely experiencing God for ourselves then we need to shut our mouths until we can HONESTLY say that we have done so.

So, here’s some paraphrasing of what They have taught us:

Just as certainly as men share their religious beliefs, an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists, they create a religious group of some sort which eventually creates common goals, an ambition or effort; an aim or desired result. Someday religionists will get together and actually effect co-operation on the basis of unity of ideals, a conception of what is perfect; most suitable, and purposes, a reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists rather than attempting to do so on the basis of psychological (affecting, or arising in the mind; related to the mental and emotional state of a person) opinions (a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge) and theological (relating to the study of theology or scriptures) beliefs (acceptance of something). Goals, an object of a person's ambition or effort; an aim or desired result, rather than creeds (DOGMA) should unify religionists. Since true religion is a matter of personal spiritual experience, it is inevitable that each individual religionist must have his own and personal interpretation of the realization of that spiritual experience. Let the term "faith" stand for the individual's relation to God rather than for the creedal formulation (DOGMA) of what some group of mortals have been able to agree upon as a common religious attitude (a settled way of thinking or feeling about someone or something, typically one that is reflected in a person's (or a group’s) behavior...study group promotion, book promotion, donation promotion, hidden personal profit motive, religious group promotion, self promotion, dogma, group think, cliques, little tribunals, arguments etc...). "Have you faith? Then have it to yourself." 99:5.7

Bottom line:

True religion is personal experience.

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Gang mindset will simply need to be continued to be worked on after this life in the flesh has run its course.

Let’s just self-correct now and get on with what Jesus and our Revs have instructed! We are indeed quivering on the brink.

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Blessings ~ Lucy

david norwood